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| Written by Mickey Koke | |||
| Saturday, 19 June 2010 14:27 | |||
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I believe the Padres would much rather stay away from trading the starting pitching core like Stauffer or Gallagher because of the under-performing Kevin Correia and the fact that Chris Young is possibly out for the entire year. Another thing to take into consideration is that the young gun, Mat Latos, will have his work load limited. This is why I believe an Xavier Nady or Austin Kerns is probably the type of player the club seeks, rather than some of the other bigger hitters who would require too much of our young prospects or our big league talent. The Padres would not have to part with key contributers and would add a bat without taking away from their strength - pitching depth! Also, the only way I see the Padres dealing Heath Bell is if a team overwhelms the Padres a with a cheap, controllable high upside prospect like a Cameron Maybin, who will be controllable for years to come and who fits the Padres philosophy of playing "petco Park into an advantage." One thing I have confidence in is that this regime, while they are very tight lipped in contrast to the previous regime (KT Alderson and co.), will stick to their plan. However, I also do not believe that they are satisfied with the status quo. Now, does that mean the majority of Padres fans or the casual fan would be doing back flips for a player like Nady or Kerns? Probably not but, it should provide more production and increase the chances of winning more games. Also it would allow us to keep our core players and would allow the further development of the younger players without giving up any top -tier talent. I know as a die hard fan myself, I would love the addition of the "big bat." However, I do realize the Padres are still in 1st place and I do not think the front office will panic and abort the long-term plan.Here are some names of players that have been bantered about in trade talks. Some cheap, some realistic and some are probably just pipe dreams. Let's look at several options and examine why they would be good possible matches or why they would be poor options:
Home: Avg .293 Away: Avg .239 Vs. Lefties: .333 Vs. Rightie: .235 He could be a realistically attractive guy for Petco Park and the Padres. The Brewers are desperate for pitching and pitching depth is what the Padres possess. His value is high because of his surge of HR's leading the NL; however, his numbers away from Milwaukee are not exactly stellar. Because of his improving power numbers, the Padres would have to give up some good talent to acquire a legit force but in my opinion would be well worth it because Hart is still young, seems to be improving and can manage all outfield positions. Hart would be great for insurance if Venable, Blanks (when healthy) Tony Gwynn Jr., Scott Hairston continue to struggle. The Padres are 1st in defensive run production and I think Hart is a very good option and fits for several reasons. The only problem is if the Padres were unwilling to part with starting pitching because of the "workload" they are setting for Mat Latos, they may want to hold on to Stauffer etc. even with recently improved pitching depth in the minors Im not sure if the Padres can afford to give up Tim Stauffer when he is healthy especially if they do have to shut Latos down while in contention they will need him. "Everybody wants pitching depth," Hoyer said. "I'd rather have pitching depth than bring in one more bat that may not help us in the long run. I'm not saying I won't do it, but it's risky."
Home: Avg .328 Away: Avg .246 Vs. Lefties: Avg .333 Vs. Righties: Avg .276 He could be possible but the Marlins are playing well. I am hearing they would rather deal Ross than Maybin but only if they are not in contention.
Home: Avg .247 Away: Avg .333 Vs. Lefties: Avg .282 Vs. Righties: Avg .296 He could be had for a 2nd tiered prospect and is having a very good year, (unlike the last couple); however, he is not my idea of a game changer but is undoubtedly having a stand out year. Can play all outfield spots but would be a good fit in either left or right field with his plus arm.
Home: Avg .236 Away: Avg .211 Vs. Lefties: Avg .188 Vs. Righties: Avg .239 all 5 HR's off of right handed pitching Interesting, you would be banking on him to provide some production NOW and develop for years to come, Match? Possible but maybe not likely. The Marlins front office has stated that "he is a big part of their future" after he was sent down to the minors to make room for Mike Stanton. However, I do not believe he is anywhere near untouchable but its all about mutual interest and a trading match!
Home: Avg .368 Away: Avg .286 Vs. Lefties: Avg .237 Vs. Righties: Avg .351 He can flat out rake, but yet again another lefty hitter. The Padres are looking for a right handed power bat that can hit in Petco. While DeJesus as good discipline at the plate, he possesses marginal speed on the bases. He owns right-handed pitching and is a quality and versatile defensive outfielder. However, "his hard-nosed nature makes him injury prone. (my main concern) Southpaws have given him some trouble and he needs to improve his reads on pitchers before stealing bases."
Home: Avg .231 Away: Avg .281 Vs. Lefties: Avg .246 Vs. Righties: Avg .262 I do not see the Padres making a splash for an upgrade at 2nd or SS unless it's a legitimately head and shoulders upgrade like a Dan Ugla type. Having said that, Eck is playing VERY well. Plus Jerry Hairson has played well in place of Cabrera.
Home: Avg .270 Away: Avg .252 Vs. Lefties: Avg .370 Vs. Righties: Avg .230 He would be perfect protection and a legit presence behind Adrian and in Petco Park. Having said that, the Fish are still playing well and the cost would be steep and he is making a decent dollar.
Home: Avg .312 Away: Avg .241 Vs. Lefties: Avg .296 Vs. Righties: Avg .265 He is not a great fielder but he is a legit bat that would profile very well in Petco Park. however, the Nats are also playing well so he may not be likely to be moved now especially with fan base really excited about good Baseball and the promotion of Steven Stausberg. The Nats may actually extend Willingham and Adam Dunn.
Home: Avg .269 Away: Avg .289 Vs. Lefties: Avg .247 Vs. Righties: Avg .291 Interesting guy that could probably be had relatively cheap if the Padres wanted to give Cabrera more time, but I do not see that happening. Cabrera is going to Portland to rehab and is apparently looking good running around the bases. It is hard to imagine the Padres focusing on short stop or second base unless it was for a legit force to protect Adrian and produce!
Home: Avg .331 with 10 HR Away: Avg .240 with only 2 HR Vs. Lefties: Avg .293 Vs. Righties: Avg .282 With AZ unloading, they could very well deal within the division and Moorad has ties to AZ. And recently Hoyer has said that "sometimes it makes sense to trade within your division". So, the other Chris young would be interesting, even though I am not totally sold on his hot start this year. They would have to be banking on him to continue his development and DRAMATICALLY improve his stats away from Az. The only way that makes sense for the Dbacks is if they had some young top prospect CF'er ready to take over. Adding depth at other positions while creating a hole at another very important position doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They could however, acquire one of the Padres struggling outfielders such as Venable (along with possible pitching help) to save money and hope on improvement while they rebuild.
Home: Avg .247 Away: Avg .208 Vs. Lefties: Avg .211 Vs. Righties: Avg .240 Our boy Bradley, would you take him? The guy raked here and got along with the players we had/have. I think Bradley could also be had for VERY cheap because of his "baggage", his mediocre season thus far (far his talent level) and Seattle could be unloading, or probably should. So MANY question marks with MB, but when he is on, he is definitely a legit fearful force that can produce and protect any hitter including Adrian. I would not be too concerned with his defense in LF.
Home: Avg .245 Away: Avg .217 Vs. Lefties: Avg .278 Vs. Righties: Avg .209 Another interesting guy that would be NOW an improvement in CF (even with his struggles) and a right handed bat as a oppose to a lefty in CF. He has that "it" potential and the Rays could deal him to hold onto Carl Crawford and there is no way the deal Crawford while they are playing so well. The Padres would have to bank on him developing but Im not sure he is that player that takes you to the next level. Having said that, for now and the future he probably does improve your team with SOME pop that "we" lack and elite speed that fits Jed Hoyer's emphasis of "playing Petco park into an advantage". It would be interesting to see what the Rays would want, my guess is because of his contract and the fact that the Rays would rather keep Crawford it wouldn't necessarily take one of the Padres elite prospects and could be had for some good talent but NOT a "haul". The Rays also have a player waiting in the "wings" in Desmond Jennings, their number one prospect rated by Baseball America.
Home: Avg .261 5 HR Away: Avg .276 5 HR Vs. Lefties: Avg .318 Vs. Righties: Avg .258 I like Pence and he is an all around solid player however, why would they trade him? They might want to trade some of their older more expensive players, but why young relatively cheap players?
Home: Avg .324 Away: Avg .256 Vs. Lefties: Avg .283 Vs. Righties: Avg .296 I like Young, he can HIT. The problem is the Twins are in it and Im not so sure they would A. deal him or B. he would come cheap and he still has some question marks including at times shoddy defense. Delmon is still young, I like him only at the right price.
Home: Avg .234 Away: Avg .294 Vs. Lefties: Avg .237 Vs. Righties: Avg .308 His arm is still reportedly weak however would not be a HUGE concern in LF as opposed to RF and would provide a viable threat behind Adrian. My main concern is his health. X man could be had for very cheap.
Jose Guillen: Avg .266/ 13 HR/ 41 RBI Home: Avg .235 Away: Avg .293 Vs. Lefties: Avg .250 Vs. Righties: Avg .270 Many question marks but I will hone in on ONE that I believe is the "biggest" one - money!
Home: Avg .318 Away: Avg. 230 Vs. Lefties: Avg .213 Vs. Righties: Avg .291 Another lefty, not ideal to add a lefty to a team that has in the past struggled against left handed pitchers.
Home: Avg .236 Away: Avg .211 Vs. Lefties: Avg .261 Vs. Righties: Avg .216 One Word, MONEY, he has a HUGE contract. Even if the price were right he has underperformed mightily this year.
Home: Avg .288 9 HR's Away: Avg. 264 4HR's Vs. Lefties: Avg .328 Vs. Righties: Avg .227 K.J. could add some depth to 2nd base and the middle infield in general if they still feel Cabrera needs more time with his "hammy" however, I do believe they are set at 2nd and SS especially with Jerry Hairston. The interesting thing is KJ can play the outfield, he has not played the outfield for awhile, I believe since 05-06 actually but it would be very interesting but NOT likely and again he is another left handed hitter but has faired well this year of lefties. Now there are a couple teams who would love to get rid of some "bad contract players" but how much would that team actually take on to entice the Padres to make a run? In that case you would also not be giving up "haul" of players because the other team is so willing to unload. However, the consensus I get from around baseball regarding the Padres is that they will make a move for an impact player that is relatively cheap. I think Austin Kerns and Xavier Nady are more probable fits for San Diego than some of the other players, but I do believe Corey Hart and possibly Cody Ross (if out of contention) could be had along with maybe even David Dejesus for the right price, even though the Padres will not engage in any type of bidding war with other teams regarding potential trading partners. Its all about finding a mutual interest with a team along with a trading match. You have to give up talent to receive talent in return, and I am not sold the Padres are willing to break the bank on any player to make a run.
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The Padres have shown their preference to stay within the organization and develop their young core players such as Kyle Blanks, Nick Hundley, Will Venable and Chase Headley. However, they have also stated that if they were to make a deal, it would likely be for a player who they could control for several years. The problem with that approach is that players such as Blanks, Venable and Tony Gwynn Jr have all struggled mightily. And now, Kyle Blanks, who is scheduled to be off the DL on Saturday, has still not recovered enough from his "elbow strain" to be reinstated. With Kyle's injury and the lack of production from most of the core players, it seems more likely now that the Padres will make some sort of move to boost the offense in order to take advantage of an exceptional pitching staff and increase the probability of winning a division title.
Corey Hart: Avg .263/ 17 HR/ 47 RBI
Cody Ross: Avg .289/ 6 HR/ 37 RBI
Austin Kearns: Avg .291/ 7 HR/ 31 RBI
Cameron Maybin: Avg .225/ 5 HR/ 19 RBI/ 6 SB
David DeJesus: Avg .324/ 5 HR/ 31 RBI
Jhonny Peralta: Avg .258/ 4 HR/ 33 RBI
Dan Uggla: Avg .262/ 14 HR/ 37 RBI
Josh Willingham: Avg .273/ 12 HR/ 40 RBI
Ryan Theriot: Avg .279/ 0 HR/ 16 RBI/ 14 SB
Chris Young: Avg .284/ 12 HR/ 46 RBI/ 11 SB
Milton Bradley: Avg .230/ 6 HR/ 25 RBI
B.J. Upton: Avg .231/ 6 HR/ 24 RBI/ 20 SB
Hunter Pence: Avg .269/ 10 HR/ 30 RBI/ 7 SB
Delmon Young: Avg .292/ 8 HR/ 41 RBI
X. Nady: Avg .265/ 4 HR/ 19 RBI
Jermaine Dye: He is been brought up for so long and is reportedly not even working out, he's not playing pro ball. I pass and I believe the Padres pass too. Atrocious defense with a anemic bat the second half of last season while not playing is not appealing.
Carlos Lee: Avg .224/ 10 HR/ 37 RBI
Kelly Johnson:.270/ 13 HR/ 34 RBI
Comments
Getting a bat shows a lack of faith. We got this.. let 'em play.
Dave Crowell
Oceanside
"I do have to admit that your strategy is not realistic. This is because the Padres schedule over the first third of the season is heavily tilted into their favor. It is about 50/50 through June and July, but in August is a total bear. This team will need to improve itself if it expects to be in the race at the end of August."
... my comment to that is next
Yeah.. the schedule has us in Petco a lot ... which, you may have heard, isn't a hitter's park. Thus our lumber numbers are under what they'd be in.. say.. Philly. The only trouble with August is all the Dodger fans and the Padre fans that expect doom from LA and SF.
I also seem to have noticed that our boys are doing fairly well on the road...
I'm enjoying how fans these days think they know how teams work because they all have fantasy teams.. these are flesh and blood men. As such, how they work together is crucial to success. A good example of a group not working well together was on an oil platform in the Gulf.. that didn't turn out too.. uh.. well.
The don't need to be ahead at the end of August... they need to be ahead in October.
As for the trades, I think we need to take David DeJesus off the Royals’ hands, lets get real they’re no going anywhere, might as well trade some young talent for a chance to win now. DeJesus seems like a great fit, except for the fact that he is a lefty. But if we don’t get a righty, let’s get DeJesus. He’s a legit outfielder as well. It all makes sense.
I say DeJesus if the Angels don’t get him. Also I think the Padres will get out bid for Corey Hart. I would take either one. Both are great additions to the team.
Let’s go Pad Squad.
He's young and wouldn't cost too much in terms of prospects because of his contract. We would have to take on his contract which looks like this 11:$12M, 12:$12M, 13:$12.5M, 14:$12.5M, 15:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout)
He would be perfect for Petco. He's got good power and he hits line drives. He's got good speed, a great arm and could solve the black hole in CF. Having a vet like him would also make it a lot easier to give Gonzo up this coming offseason.
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