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The 2011 Padres PDF Print E-mail
Voice of the Fan - Visitors Pass
Written by Brian Koke   
Monday, 26 April 2010 16:56
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Is it too early to think about what the Padres are going to look like next year?

The Padres will likely decline Chris Young's option of $8.5M. Adrian Gonzalez's $5.5M club option will probably be picked up, but will he be here opening day 2011? Jon Garland and Yorvit Torrealba have mutual options.  It’s too early to tell what the chances of them coming back are. Mutual options are rarely picked up by both the team and player.  Kevin Correia, David Eckstein, Jerry Hairston Jr., and Matt Stairs are all free agents.  Tony Gwynn Jr., Edward Mujica, Tim Stauffer, Mike Adams, Heath Bell and Scott Hairston are eligible for arbitration.

As first time arbitration eligible players Gwynn, Mujica, and Stauffer won’t be getting a significant increase.  Adams should get bumped up to the $2-3 million range and Bell should get bumped up to $6-7 million.

Three fifths of our rotation may hit the free agent market.  Mat Latos and Clayton Richard are most likely a lock for next year’s rotation.  Wade LeBlanc also looks like a good bet to earn a spot.  The other two spots in the rotation will likely be a battle between Simon Castro, Tim Stauffer, Sean Gallagher, Cesar Ramos, Aaron Poreda, Cesar Carillo, and Cory Luebke.  I’m not sure if the Padres would go into the season without a veteran in the rotation, but they have plenty of options.

Center field may be our biggest weakness.  Gwynn Jr. and Hairston are not cutting it.  If Hairston doesn’t have a good year I think he will be non-tendered this offseason.  He will be entering his third year of arbitration and may not be worth the cost.   Will Luis Durango or Aaron Cunningham be ready to take over in center field?  Cunningham is probably better suited for a corner outfield position.

Second base is a question mark.  Logan Forsythe, Matt Antonelli, or Lance Zawadzki could be ready by next year.

The team could look something like this before free agent signings and barring trades:

1B Adrian Gonzalez $5.5M
SS Everth Cabrera $0.43M
3B Chase Headley $0.43M
C Nick Hundley $0.43M
LF Kyle Blanks $0.43M
RF Will Venable $0.43M
2B ? (Antonelli/Forsythe/Zawadzki/FA) $0.43M or FA
CF ? (Durango/Cunningham/FA) $0.43M or FA
Bench: Gwynn Jr. 1M/?

Rotation:
Clayton Richard $0.43M
Mat Latos $0.43M
Wade Leblanc $0.43M
2 open spots (Castro/Carillo/Gallagher/Stauffer/Luebke/Poreda/Ramos/FA)$0.43M x2 or FA

Bullpen:
Heath Bell $7M
Mike Adams $3M
Luke Gregerson $0.43M
Edward Mujica $1M
Thatcher $0.43M
Russell $0.43M
1 spot for (Webb/Perdomo/Italiano/Burke/Liz/Frieri/Worrell) $0.43M

That’s roughly $31 million with 4 open spots for the bench which includes the other 15 players on the 40 man roster.  That leaves at least $9 million to spend on the 4 bench spots or upgrade SP/2B/CF.  They also could trade Adrian Gonzalez and or Heath Bell which could bring the payroll down to around $20 million depending on who they get in return.

All that is assuming the payroll will stay the same at around $40 million.  Jeff Moorad has said that he plans to raise payroll gradually back to the $70+ million range.  So what does that mean for 2011?  Hopefully Moorad will be able to set the payroll to at least the $50 million range for 2011.  That would give the Padres about $20 million to spend in the offseason or 30 million to spend if they trade Gonzo and Bell.

We have some young guys that could be ready to fill most of the spots that will be left vacant.  The free agent market doesn’t look very good for our positions of need.  The Padres could use some of that money to lock up some of our young players like Blanks, Venable, and Latos.

If we trade Gonzo at the deadline I would love to get Ellsbury, Buchholz, and a lesser prospect.  I know that Ellsbury only has 3 years of service time left and I know that he is a Scott Boras’ client.  The Padres can't afford to pay Gonzo $15-20 million for several years, but could they pay Ellsbury $5-10 for the next three years?  I don't see why not. We could get two ready potential impact players with a combined 7 years of service time for Gonzo who the Padres only have 2 years of control over. This solves our CF and SP problems.  Then, we could let the prospects fight it out for 2B and LF or sign a free agent.

It could look something like this:

CF Ellsbury
SS Cabrera
3B Headley
1B Blanks
RF Venable
LF Cunningham
C  Hundley
2B Antonelli/Forsythe/Zawadzki

Rotation:

Buchholz
Richard
Latos
LeBlanc
Castro/Carillo/Ramos...

That team would be easily affordable for the foreseeable future.

What do you think the Padres should do?

 

Comments  

 
+1 # mickeykoke 2010-04-27 19:17
I would love a legit outfield prospect or a proven player like Jacoby. However, I think I personally would prefer our own outfielders have a chance, Cunningham, Durango possibly even Darnell if they choose to move him to the outfield.

I think Beckham would be very interesting, I also wouldn't mind a plethora of hard throwing pitching prospects to load our farm even more. One thing is for certain, I would much rather quality in ANY deal with Adrian than quantity. I think no matter what team we deal with (if any) Jed the "Jedi" Hoyer will make a solid trade and acquire a "kings ransom" from ANY team trying to get Adrian.
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+2 # briankoke 2010-04-27 22:53
I'm a big Beckham fan two, but you might not get too much more than him in a deal. I also like Durango and Cunningham and at the same time Antonelli/Forsythe... Maybe the best thing to do is hold on to Adrian and collect some draft picks while we develop our own young players and make a run at the playoffs next year and possibly even this year.

There aren't too many teams with a plethora (LOL) of quality pitching prospects. The Tigers are one, but the top 2 pitchers have both had arm issues this season.
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# 2010-04-27 21:48
Love the post! Good job Brian.

C Hundley/FA vet
1B Blanks
2B Antonelli
SS Cabrera
3B Headley
LF Denorfia/Cunningham
CF S. Hairston/Gwynn
RF Venable

SP1 Young
SP2 Corriea
SP3 Richard
SP4 Stauffer
SP5 LeBlanc
CL Wood

(Latos in 'pen)
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# SD Steve 2010-04-28 21:07
Latos in the Pen! Get outta here!
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# Gottrocks 2010-04-27 22:22
Whoa...we havent even finished the first month of the 2010 season and we are already conjecturing about 2011??

I guess its fun as an academic exercise...but so much can happen and the variables are endless;
I think its rather pointless.

Let's see how 2010 unfolds...
Maybe re access the situation around the all star break?
By mid July, I think we will have a good read on the 2010 Padres...and possible changes for the remaining of this year and years to come.
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# briankoke 2010-04-28 20:37
It's never too early to look ahead. I'm already looking at the 2011 draft prospects.
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# Adams 2010-04-28 07:22
Bucholz, Ellsbury and a prospect wont be enough for Adrian. And the bigger lies in needing a better catcher. Hundley is serviceable but in a lineup where the offense is young and somewhat inconsistent there needs to be more production from spots that traditionally dont carry you offensively. Like the catcher. He may have a good year but I dont think he's a full time catcher. And Id like to have one thats stronger defensively.

I like the possibilities of what they'll look like next season because finally we have better options. That should be the team motto for next season, We Have Options!
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+1 # briankoke 2010-04-28 20:35
Like I said to Steve, I think it depends on the prospect. That prospect could also be a catcher like you are suggesting in Luis Exposito although I would want a better prospect than that. Maybe him and another prospect in their 10-20 range.

I disagree about Hundley. I don't think he's going to be a star, but I think he is going to be at the very least a major league average starting catcher. As of right now, he has been above average on both sides of the ball. The problem is that their are few catching prospects and even fewer on teams that may have interest in Gonzo.

I like the Buccholz/Ellsbury thing because it works perfectly with Hoyer's stradegy to build around the park. We'd get a dynamic leadoff hitter (which has been a major weakness this season) and a power starter with ace potential. The team would be much more athletic and the outfield defense would be outstanding.
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+1 # SD Steve 2010-04-28 15:35
I would really like to see what the team can get for Bell. Teams will start to heat up talks soon.

Honestly, I do not think that is enough for AG and as long as the Sox continue to struggle the more they will be willing to give for him.
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+1 # briankoke 2010-04-28 20:29
I think that really depends on who the third prospect is. What would you suggest is enough?
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# SD Steve 2010-04-28 21:12
That's a good question. I feel as thought I know the Padres system very well, but I am not going to sit here and act like I know systems of other teams.

As much as I would like to see Bell moved for Wilson Ramos. I'm not sure that the Twins will be in desperate needs for a Closer. Teams will need a closer and will pay for bell though.

In regards to AG, Buster Olney stated he felt that Padres could not get actual value for him because he's just that good. I believe that to be true. I would be looking at a package of 4 or 5 prospects.

Jed needs to sell AG on his road numbers and just double them. This is not a 40/100 guy, this is a 50/125 guy. In any other park with a team surrounding him and a gold glove, he's as good as it gets.
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+1 # briankoke 2010-04-29 10:00
I want quality over quantity.
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# SDPads17 2010-04-28 19:55
Watching Buchholz on top of the rotation looks rather funny to me... I think he'd be more of a 2nd or a 3rd pitcher on the rotation...Maybe put LeBlanc or Latos in the front. A player that is known for pitching for the Padres...

Actually, all of this looks foreign to me right now...

Do you think Venable can play center field?
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+1 # briankoke 2010-04-28 20:28
I don't think it's ideal to have Venable in CF, but he can handle it. I think he's a good defender in left, but has more defensive value as a plus defender in RF.

He may not be the best guy for the top of the rotation. You wouldn't really know who would be there in that rotation until you see how all those players do this year.
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