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My Letter to the Padres PDF Print E-mail
Voice of the Fan - Visitors Pass
Written by Brian Koke   
Wednesday, 19 January 2011 00:35
Sharing is Caring

Below is a letter I’ve sent to the Padres stating my displeasure with Petco Park’s dimensions.  I strongly urge everyone to write the Padres and voice their opinion on any and all topics.

You can E-mail the Padres herePetco1

 

You can send a letter to:

San Diego Padres

P. O. Box 122000

San Diego, CA 92112-2000

 

You can even call the Padres at (619) 795-5000 or (619) 795-5555

To whom it may concern,

 

Over the last 7 seasons Padres fans have endured some of the most boring games in the history of the franchise.  Winning or not, extremely low scoring games are boring.  Offense brings most people to the ballpark, not pitching.  Yes, everyone loves a pitcher’s duel, but not when it’s every single game.  Power hitters are the best paid players in the game for a reason.  Power hitters are more exciting.  Last year Mr. Moorad said, “During the interviews (with prospective GMs) that I've had, they think the ballpark is a tremendous advantage, that we can build a competitive advantage in the ballpark.  It's my conclusion that we have an inherent competitive advantage at Petco. Our challenge is to exploit that.”  I don’t understand how anyone can think we have a tremendous advantage at Petco Park.  In fact, the numbers prove that we do not.

 

I have made calculations that rank each teams "home field advantage."  First of all, every single team had more wins at home than on the road during this particular time period. The calculations are simple. I added each teams home wins from 2004-2010 and subtracted it by their away wins for the same time period (2004-2010). Meaning the higher number, the more wins they had at home compared to the road, and the more that team benefited from playing in their home ball park. The ranking is from 1-30. #1 being the team that benefited most from their home park and #30 being the team that benefited least from their home park.

1

TB

93

2

COL

88

3

PIT

87

4

BOS

78

5

KC

73

6

SEA

71

7

MIN

69

8

HOU

68

9

TOR

67

10

MIL

67

11

NYY

64

12

TX

61

13

DET

55

14

LAD

55

15

OAK

53

16

ATL

52

17

WAS

51

18

STL

49

19

NYM

49

20

CIN

46

21

CHW

44

22

SEA

40

23

SF

40

24

CLE

40

25

BAL

37

26

FL

35

27

CHC

34

28

LAA

29

29

SD

26

30

PHI

16


Not only do these statistics show that the Padres do not have a tremendous advantage, they prove the Padres have had a tremendous disadvantage at home since the ball park was built.  This year, the Padres were 6th in stolen bases in Major League Baseball and 2nd in the National League.  Did this help us make Petco Park a tremendous advantage?  It sure didn’t make us any more advantageous than on the road since we had identical home and road records.  Even with this added speed and a more athletic team, the Padres were dead last in baseball for the home field advantage differential. Does a more athletic and speedy team give you an advantage at home? Probably but, if you get speed at the expense of power it gives you a disadvantage in hitters parks where you are already at a disadvantage on the road.  You can’t steal first and you don’t steal home.  You have to have players that can drive runners in.  I’m not even suggesting moving in all the fences.  All I would like to see is the right field wall moved in from the gap to the line.  Petco could still be a pitchers park, but not so extreme.

 

Mr. Moorad has said he wants to make games more appealing for the fans.  Doesn’t this involve listening to the fans?  The attendance in 2010 should tell you all you need to know about how entertaining it is to watch a boring team win 90 games.  Despite those 90 wins, the Padres were in the bottom half in attendance.  We’ve heard several times since the new ownership and front office took over that they would rather move the fences back than in.  We have heard that Mr. Moorad has also said the payroll is going to depend on the fans supporting the team.  So why should the fans go to the park to see boring baseball?  If you don’t put an interesting product on the field, the attendance is only going to get worse.  My family and I are all diehard fans.  We have purchased bricks both when the park was built and for Gwynn’s statue in right field.  My family has supported the Padres since 1969, but find ourselves going to fewer and fewer games each year.  When John Moores purchased the Padres, he made a lot of promises he did not keep.  Is Jeff Moorad going to be another carpetbagger only looking to turn a profit or does he really care about what the fans think and want?  Several Padres players have stated publically their displeasure with Petco’s dimensions including our recently traded superstar first baseman.  Do you expect us to bring in or retain any hitters or are we going to be a revolving door franchise with no history or tradition?  Is Tony Gwynn going to be the last Padre inducted into the hall of fame because no hitter is going to want to spend his career in this park?

The Home and Away splits are ridiculous since the ball park was built.  I’m sure these stats have already been presented to you so I won’t bore you with the endless statistics I have compiled.  One that sticks out to me and says it all was in 2007 when we were 25th in baseball at home for extra base hits and 1st on the road.  Even the speedy “Petco type player” Will Venable hit much better (.262 .345 .427) away from Petco this year than he did at home (.226 .300 .387).  It is well documented that Petco Park suppresses all offensive statistics, and not just for power hitters.  Is it right that our own players feel more comfortable hitting on the road than at home?  Even if we gain a tremendous advantage at home I don’t want to win that way.  I don’t want to win because of some gimmick.  I want to win because we are the best team on the field that day.  How about a balanced team with speed at the top and some power in the middle?  We can still focus on pitching like we always have since the alterations I am suggesting would make Petco a more fair pitchers park.

I was excited when Mr. Moorad bought the Padres because of the Diamondbacks willingness to draft and sign the best player available.  As much as I liked KT, I was also very excited to see Hoyer brought in as our GM because of the Red Sox success in the draft and player development.  The Padres have failed in the draft for many years and for me, home grown players are the most exciting.  I like that we are going after more athletes instead of solely focusing on numbers.  I like that you aren’t afraid to take a high upside high school player in place of a safer pick.

 

I’m hoping that the fences aren’t being moved in because of money.  We were told that payroll would rise gradually.  Well, how gradually?  We were told that the 2010 payroll would start with a four and it didn’t.  Why does it look like the payroll will only rise by a few million and still be near the bottom in 2011?  I realize that Petco gives us the advantage when signing pitchers, but it gives us an extreme disadvantage when signing or extending position players.  What’s wrong with having a fair park that pitchers and hitters would be indifferent towards?

 

Respectfully,

Brian Koke

 

PETCOPark1

 

This is an example of how I would like to see the dimensions changed.

 

 

Comments  

 
# 2011-01-19 08:50
If having a hitter's park is an advantage for the home team, why are the Phillies dead last in your ranking? Or the Cubs at #27?
Or, if winning more at home is better for the franchise, has it helped the Pirates (at #3 in your rankings?
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+1 # briankoke 2011-01-19 14:23
I never suggested a hitters park. In fact, that only further proves my point. Citizens Bank Park is the other extreme and it's giving them a disadvantage at home. The point about the advantage was in response to Moorad's comments. I'm not suggesting that moving in the fences will give us an advantage. I was simply proving that Petco is not an advantage as was suggested. I also said in my letter that I don't want to win because of an advantage we've built at home (gimmick). Thanks for reading.
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# 2011-01-19 14:08
I think you guys are jumping the gun a little here. The previous regime didn't try to tailor a team to Petco and the new one has only had 2 off seasons to rework the team. I believe the yshould leave the dimensions alone. Give Hoyer and McLeod a few years to draft the players needed to win at Petco. I don't see how homeruns are the be all end all. You don't need to have 3 40 homerun guys to win. Speed and pitching play everywhere, Hoyer just hasn't had enough time to get "his" team together. If you can get 5 or 6 guys who hit .280 ans steal 25-35 bases, you don't think you'll score a lot of runs? Maybe I'm the last guy out there who likes watching good baserunning, but a "big" steal in a close game is every bit as exciting as a homer in my books.
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+1 # briankoke 2011-01-19 14:27
I hope you're right and I am willing to give Hoyer a chance, but it's not just about scoring more runs. It's about exciting baseball. If they can score a bunch of runs with that style of baseball, I can do without the big HR totals. I just don't think they will be able to score enough runs if they are getting speed in place of power. Their new found speed/athleticism didn't help build an advantage this year, but it's only one year. Lets see what happens this year.
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# 2011-01-19 14:12
As for the attendence issue, I don't think it had anything to do with the product on the field. No one gave this team a chance for day 1 because their payroll was 40 mil. All fans claim "they just want a winner to support", well the Padres gave them a winner last year and still no one showed. Padre fans don't want wins, they want a large payroll. I hate to break it to you folks, but spending doesn't equal winning, right Yankee fans.
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-1 # AvengingJackMurphy 2011-01-20 11:41
per Moorad: "It's my conclusion that we have an inherent competitive advantage at Petco. Our challenge is to exploit that.”

The operative word is "exploit". The idea being that they are putting the pieces in place to exploit the competition (i.e. speed/defense/pitching)
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+1 # briankoke 2011-01-20 14:25
We had the speed, defense and pitching last year and did not have a "competitive advantage."

Speed - 6th in stolen bases (2nd in the NL)
Pitching - 2nd in ERA in all of baseball
Defense - 2nd in FPCT in all of baseball

We had the exact same record on the road as we did at home. Where is the competitive advantage?
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-1 # 2011-01-21 09:45
The team won 90 games. They had a winning record at home. Therefore they had a competitive advantage at home. We should be excited that they built a team that can win at home AND on the road. According your math (which really doesnt paint he right picture) your #1 homefield advantage team, Tampa, had pretty much the same homefield advantage at the Padres last year. The reality is good teams win at home and on the road and that is teh type of team being built in San Diego.

Moving in the fences would be silly.
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+1 # briankoke 2011-01-21 12:12
"Therefore they had a competitive advantage at home."

We had the same record on the road as we did at home. You already have an advantage at home because you get the last AB; therefore, we did not have a competitive advantage. In fact, we had a big disadvantage. Only one team was worse than the Padres when you compare the home record to their road record. One year doesn't paint the whole picture, but it's pretty obvious that this style of baseball wasn't any more affective at home than it was on the road. We've added some even more speed, so next year will give us a better indication.
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+1 # 2011-01-21 10:45
I must say watching my Blue Jays smash 5 homers a game up here in Toronto was amazing last year. The odd pitching duel at Rogers Center (Skydome) is more fun to watch because it is such a rare thing. Feel for you guys down there sounds like a snoozefest at your ballpark. Good luck with the changes.
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-1 # 2011-01-21 15:04
I respect your desires and the effort you're making as you root for your beloved Padres, however, the basis for your argument - this simple home field advantage calculation thing you've done - just doesn't work. A real mathematician (which I'm not) could shoot all kinds of holes in it. Two points to note: the Padres haven't been very good for a few years (prior to last), so with the lack of quality and consistency, you get inconsistent home-road splits. Secondly, you're penalizing a team that plays well on the road! If this type of calculation = a winner, then why are winning teams scattered all over through your table?

On your other point, I think the Herzog Cardinals of the 80s were some of the most exciting teams around (speed, speed, and more speed) and it seems to me that Jed is attempting to create that type of team.

Anyway, just a nice counter to you. I share your love of the Padres and it's nice to see others who really care about the team.
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+1 # briankoke 2011-01-21 18:45
"the Padres haven't been very good for a few years (prior to last), so with the lack of quality and consistency"

They had one terrible year since Petco was built and one below average year. Other than that they have been one of the more consistent good teams in the NL. They are 574-561 during that stretch. 5 out of the 7 years they were above .500.

I'm not penalizing a team that plays on the road. I'm showing that they aren't making Petco and advantage. They aren't playing any better at home than they are in other parks. Their style isn't any better in Petco than it would be in a different park.

"then why are winning teams scattered all over through your table?"

The "stat" isn't meant to show how good a team is. It's meant to show how well a team plays in it's home ball park compared to how they play on the road. Shouldn't a team that is supposed to have an advantage in Petco play better there than they do on the road?
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# 2011-01-23 15:45
This is a stupid letter, i'm sorry. I don't find the games boring. I enjoy baseball for the game, not to see lots of home runs. Were not gonnna have a higher payroll for awhile and you can blame John Moores for that. Your right, a way to increase the payroll is to go to games and sell tickets. Well the people complaining about having no exciting hitters are the ones not supporting the team. I have fun at games watching Padres baseball. home runs are a bonus.
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# 2011-05-12 10:14
Great article Brian. I would have to agree with you. I'll admit as of 3 years ago, I was one of those people that wanted to keep the fences where they are. Then I saw one of our players appearing to hit a game winning extra base hit only for the D'bax Chris Young to make a ridiculous catch to end the game. Unfortunately ownership isn't going to do anything especially with Ted Leitner's reiterating that fact in which he had a convo with Jeff Moorad that the fences aren't moving. So in this cases, what can we do as fans?
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